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SolveigS — Mon, 05 May 2008 15:27:19 -0000

Whoops. Neither Epstein nor Delong are actually maximalists, who favor "longer, broader, and stricter." They're strong supporters of the fundamentals... but in the substantial grey areas around the edges can go either way. See Epstein on Eldred, for example (opposing extension). Delong went the other way on Eldred (favoring extension) but disfavors criminal copyright.

Re shape: a cube.

Re the utilitarians versus the natural lawyers (a Milton term, love it), I ended up going on and on about that and posted later. "Shape" is in the Title.

Re: The Technology Liberation Front » Archive » On The Shape of the Libertarian “IP” Debate

Timon — Fri, 02 May 2008 01:11:32 -0000

RB, there have been times when a cut would have caused me to bleed green and yellow, yes, especially growing up in the Canseco McGuire Henderson Eckersley era. The Beane era, and dollar Wednesdays, are like the proverbial proof that there is a God who loves us and wants us to be happy.

Re: The Technology Liberation Front » Archive » On The Shape of the Libertarian “IP” Debate

eee_eff — Fri, 02 May 2008 00:15:27 -0000

(I’m going to relax my usual rule about the phrase “IP” because of the way Friedman and Lessig have framed it):

Of course RMS also thinks similarly about the IP term:

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.xhtml

Re: The Technology Liberation Front » Archive » On The Shape of the Libertarian “IP” Debate

BubbaDude — Thu, 01 May 2008 21:18:13 -0000

Are you an A's fan, Timon? If that's the case, I'll certainly cut you some slack.

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binarybits — Thu, 01 May 2008 12:49:34 -0000

Let me second Prof. Friedman's recommendation of Law's Order. It's a great book and the chapters on copyright and patent law are indeed first rate.

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Timon — Thu, 01 May 2008 11:32:52 -0000

Also, by way of testing how many people are reading this (which I suspect is low) let's do a benchmark on a flick image of my insanely gorgeous girlfriend. (24 views at posting)

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Timon — Thu, 01 May 2008 11:24:37 -0000

Richard,

I share your disdain of snot-nose kids such as myself, another of the 99 out of 100 things we agree on. I meant 'sorry' in the straightforward sense, as in, "sorry for the immoderate comments, for dwelling on the other 1%." But your pique suggests you are in fact a Fedora victim ;)

Re: The Technology Liberation Front » Archive » On The Shape of the Libertarian “IP” Debate

BubbaDude — Thu, 01 May 2008 10:26:10 -0000

Grow up, Timon.

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Timon — Thu, 01 May 2008 07:04:08 -0000

Flemish Belgium is to Holland as
Free Software is to Open Source as
Northern California is to Southern California as
Skiers are to Snowboarders as
Leninists are to Trotskyites as
Ruby is to Python as
Devout Muslims are to Orthodox Jews as
Devoted Real Madrid fans are to devoted Barcelona fans, ie

...2 groups who are indistinguishable on 99% of everything and completely identical to the man on the street will let the other 1% dominate their relationship with the other group. (Sorry Richard Bennett, I observe from your blog that you are even an A's fan (!). I suspect that your apparent antipathy to life has to do with not making the switch from Fedora to Ubuntu, am I close?) It is useful to keep these things in perspective.

Re: The Technology Liberation Front » Archive » On The Shape of the Libertarian “IP” Debate

David Friedman — Thu, 01 May 2008 06:33:23 -0000

Readers interested in my view of the IP question--from the perspective of economics, not moral philosophy--may want to look at two chapters in my _Law's Order_. The first discusses the general question of why it makes sense to treat some things as property and some as commons. The second applies the analysis to patent and copyright.

http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Laws_Order_draft/...

http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Laws_Order_draft/...