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Re: Silly Government Policies Do Eventually Go Away

binarybits — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:18:56 -0000

Don, obviously on the margin the DMCA increases the revenues of game manufacturers somewhat. The exact size of the increase is an empirical question that's not easily answered, but my guess is that it's a fairly small. Pirated games would still be illegal, and would therefore be inconvenient and carry a stigma. In any event, I agree with you that this is something best handled via contract, not copyright, law.

Re: Silly Government Policies Do Eventually Go Away

Don Marti — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:12:49 -0000

The DMCA keeps modding underground, and enough of a hassle to make most people more willing to buy the games.

Without anticircumvention, you could take your own console to a local store and get the mod chip installed ("I just want to put Linux on it."), or even order a pre-modded console online. Many players would choose to give up the manufacturer's warranty and the price of the chip plus install, in exchange for unlimited access to infringing games.

I still think anticircumvention is bad public policy. If a vendor wants a locked-down platform, they should enforce it contractually, by leasing not selling the hardware, and rely on contract law.

Re: Silly Government Policies Do Eventually Go Away

binarybits — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:17:30 -0000

Don, I think it's important not to overstate the importance of anti-circumvention law to anti-piracy efforts on consoles. The fundamental reason most people don't engage in circumvention is because consoles are designed in a way that makes doing so inconvenient. The DMCA certainly helps somewhat by giving console makers a weapon to use against modders, but the vast majority of consumers won't mod their consoles simply because doing so is more trouble than it's worth. Lockdown may matter, but I don't think the lockdown necessarily requires the DMCA.

Re: Silly Government Policies Do Eventually Go Away

Don Marti — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:43:03 -0000

Tim, would "Grand Theft Auto IV" exist without anticircumvention? The fact that it's out for consoles but not PCs implies that the lockdown matters to the company.

Without anticircumvention, online retailers could openly sell mod chips "to run Linux, nudge nudge wink wink."

True, anticircumvention shuts down more useful knowledge-building and economic activity than it promotes, but there is a constituency: makers of expensive games that appeal to wannabe thugs and are valuable offline, as hard-to-track infringing copies.