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Re: Novell and MS–the market brings a new beginning

eee_eff — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:56:13 -0000

In fact, Novell probably isn't a viable competitor to MSFT; but the general FOSS OS market is.

Well, Noel you have passed anbother milestone!

I think of this deal much in the same way I think of Microsoft's competing for influence in donating to both Republicans and Democrats: they want a voice in that community.

They are somewhat surprised (As I was) at the volume and consistency of the criticism of Microsoft. I did not expect the FOSS community to hold together as well as it has.

Looking more closely at the deal, and the recent annoucement by Sun to release Java under the GPL, I can see that the competetion to have a voice in the developer community is warming up.

Remeber what Schumpeter said about the complexity of competition, and not to be too focused on cost competition alone.

I think the for-profit enterprise is competeing for the respect of a community.

Yes, it's a good thing.

Re: Novell and MS–the market brings a new beginning

Noel Le — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:37:25 -0000

Luis, are you implying that big and small firms can never collaborate, or that its somehow MSFT's fault the financial limitations of FOSS business models.

Sonia's reference to Judge Jackson is interesting. Jackson (when he was awake) didn't think MSFT had viable competitors. In fact, Novell probably isn't a viable competitor to MSFT; but the general FOSS OS market is. To say that MSFT needs to partner with a competitor rather than a "lapdog" as Luis states it, would have MSFT partnering with the entire FOSS industrial segment or not work with FOSS at all. Obviously, MSFT is more practical, and sought to work with Novell.

Re: Novell and MS–the market brings a new beginning

Luis Villa — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 15:10:51 -0000

Microsoft's payment to Novell represents about one day's worth of profits for MS; Novell's payment to MS was more than Novell has made in profit in the past year. This isn't competition.

Re: Novell and MS–the market brings a new beginning

eee_eff — Sat, 11 Nov 2006 09:47:51 -0000

I am totally amazed at how many people were surprised at this. I had fully expected MS would try to pay off some of the big open source companies, and hence my stock picks for this year included Novell:

Predictions for the Year 2007, Part I

Stock Picks

18. Stock picks: Steris (40%), Johnson & Johnson (40%), Novell (20%)

Re: Novell and MS–the market brings a new beginning

Soinia — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:59:45 -0000

Receiving a $308 million payment isn't what most people consider groveling.

Re: Novell and MS–the market brings a new beginning

Luis Villa — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:33:40 -0000

It isn't competition if you have to grovel at the other guy's feet to have permission to participate in their market. Most of the time we call that having a lapdog, not a competitor.