DISQUS

Brad Weikel · 2 months ago

The US Constitution is neither an exhaustive catalog of reasonable rights (legally or morally), nor a checklist for building a just and healthy society, and believing that spreading broadband access should be a national priority does not make me or anyone else a socialist (whatever that word actually means in the 21st century).

This blunt-force ideological drivel really hurts the legitimacy of your occasionally thoughtful, nuanced posts.

mwendy · 2 months ago

Brad, by "spreading broadband" you mean expropriating access of unregulated, privately-owned facilities through government law or rule, right? In other words, taking their property. Sounds fishy (socialist?) to me - especially given that there isn't a problem.

FDR's 2nd Bill of Rights on Steroids! Let the Rights collision begin.

dm · 2 months ago

Twaddle.

Brad can speak for himself, but I think the word you're looking for isn't "socialism", it's "investment".

mwendy · 2 months ago

No, sorry, it's not.

cryptozoologist · 2 months ago

i find your slippery slope argument to be less than convincing and i (really) believe that by allowing the discussion to devolve into reductio ad absurdium you diminish the cause of personal liberty. it really is no great stretch to equate internet connectivity to the system of roads, indeed it is often called the information superhighway. i am hopeful (confident even) that you would consider freedom of speech to be a human right. internet connectivity is a great facilitator of free speech and public discourse. just because it hasn't been around since the beginning of recorded history does not imply internet access is not a human right. suppose you personally were to be banned from the internet because, say you were found guilty in a court of law of using an image on your blog that you had not secured the proper rights to. perhaps then you might start thinking of that internet access as a human right.

dm · 2 months ago

Very clever? This japery was turning gray when the first municipal water system was introduced.

It's kind of silly to make fun of Finland --- which already is quite well connected, after all, and seems to be being quite successful at technological and design innovation --- particularly in communications.

it used to be that one didn't have a "right" to travel on roads. Now one does, mostly because roads are basically too cheap to meter --- and free access to good roads make it cheaper to deliver goods, making the nation more productive, and all of us richer. I'm sure that when the tolls were torn down there was an Adam Thierer decrying the fact that people were no longer (literally) going to pull their own weight in transportation. Most large cities provide (residential) waste removal because it's basically too expensive to bother with metering (and there's the public health problem of trash that is improperly removed). (Ironically, technological advances may make both waste removal and roads easier to meter, and it might make sense to meter them.)

Oh, I'm bemused by the Finnish move, too. But they're a wealthy country. They can afford it.

dm · 2 months ago

To elaborate a bit, 8% of Finland's GDP comes from telecommunications exports. Over a third of the population already has broadband service that exceeds the level they want to have spread to the entire population. This connectivity will raise the standard of living in Finland and will make it easier to make money --- just as government-provided roads do.

Also, Finland is in a recession, along with the rest of us. This is a "shovel ready" project that will benefit domestic Finnish companies while laying the foundations for economic growth in the future.

I'm still bemused, but the more I look into it, the more common-sensical it appears.

Jim_Lakely · 2 months ago

Very clever, Adam. I was laughing all the way.

An excellent way to characterize the absurdity of the new "broadband entitlement." I'm willing to go halvsies with you on a new XBox ... as long as I can pick the games and you don't mind me hanging out at your house at all hours.

So ... we should follow the path of that powerhouse of economic liberty and vitality that is Finland. (Sigh ... then imagine the sound of my head banging into a wall.)

Adrian Salsgiver · 2 months ago

Free lifetime tech support when all this crap breaks down? When your call hardware they say it is software, then you call software and they say it is hardware - and when you get them both on the phone they say it is all your fault that their shit does not work. That is just how it is.

Oh yeah, I am really gonna get FIOS and have a chip implanted into my brain so they can figure out in advance what TV shows I should watch. This is science. ;-)

skylights · 2 months ago

This is a great step forward for mankind. I hope other countries follow suit. Ah, I see you work for the Cato Institute and other Scaife-funded organizations which worship laissez-faire capitalism. Why all the communist imagery and symbolism, then?

Berin Szoka · 2 months ago

Dude, it's IRONY!

BD · 2 months ago

It's actually not irony at all.

And Adam, by adding a single sentence:

"That seems to be where our current FCC is heading, anyway."

You turned what could have been a semi-funny sarcastic post into another ridiculous slippery slope whinefest of the variety that claims that any attempt to regulate anything must put us on the path to socialism. I get enough of that s*** from cable.

Berin Szoka · 2 months ago

I was referring to our "communist imagery and symbolism."

RLB · 2 months ago

You know who else liked Finland??? LOL

DRo · 1 month ago

Godwinned. Thread over.

juliansanchez · 2 months ago

Eh. I think (1) this is indeed pretty silly, but (2) broadband has a plausible connection to the demands of 21st century education and democratic participation that HD flatscreens and Xboxes don't. So it's not at quite the same level of ridiculousness.

dm · 2 months ago

One wonders if there will be a Lapp-top program to go with it?

I suppose a country that straddles the Arctic Circle may also take into account the savings from a reduction in snow-removal costs --- down to the level required by emergency vehicles and delivery trucks --- if everyone can telecommute and shop from home. This bandwidth program might pay for itself.

And finally, I look forward to a time when technology enables the realization of even Adam's lampooned dreams --- when the contemporary equivalent of an Xbox can be delivered as easily as bandwith can be found in an urban setting.

Joshua · 2 months ago

Broadband access at the point of a gun. What we gain technologically we diminish morally.

Brandon · 3 weeks ago

Free broadband? Lol! I missed the part of the Constitution that says that's a right. We don't NEED free broadband for moochers. It's a total myth to say that people in rural areas can't get a single broadband provider. And I'm pretty sure most of America's farmers make enough money from crop sales and a good chunk get subsidies from the gov't!!! And why does every poor person need BROADBAND?? Why not dialup, at the most? You can still do a lot with dialup or ISDN. Or even wireless Internet.

This universal broadband movement is crap. Just more liberal big-gov't propaganda. We don't need EVERY person to have a service to become "competitive", whatever the free-broadbanders mean by that, if they even mean what the term actually means. The private sector is doing fine! 10 years ago we couldn't have imagined how technologically advanced we've become in 2009! Plenty of people have broadband or dialup, and no one needs free Internet.

At the very least, if poor folks are gonna get free broadband, they should have to pay a monthly user fee. If they can pay for a public option with premiums, they can pay for free Internet. No "free" handouts.

Brandon · 3 weeks ago

It's also a total myth that most Americans need access to broadband in order to survive. You can still get by fine without access to Internet. Sure, having broadband is great, but it's a LUXURY!!! The "importance" of it to being an American or being in the developed world does not make it more urgent that everyone have it. What about cars, food, electronics, healthcare, education, etc.? These socialists need to get their heads out of their asses. I'm only 22, and I'm still in college, but I didn't have access to broadband at home til I was like 21. I had dialup before then, and I didn't have a computer until I was like 12 or 13!!! But I got by just fine! I'd like to know where all these students are that "need" broadband access, esp. at home, to "do homework" or complete school projects.

Julius Genachowski sounds like a Soviet commissar with all his "ambitious regulatory goals." Does he not believe in free enterprise? Why does gov't need to direct all this crap and play on people's fears of a fictional "spectrum crisis"?